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Maybe a "I'm an expert" button?
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maikiampietroJan 9, 2025
I can't understand the difference between the different types of sub-accounts I can create with albyhub. It is specified that the "fast account" doesn't have an alby address. The other two options are very vague, as they don't indicate their differences. Do both support keysend? if so, what's the difference? Saying one is for "podcasters and musicians" and the other is for "friends and family" gives ZERO information to me.
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Hi! 😊
Thanks for bringing this up. Let me clarify:
Technical Level (press the expert button here! ⚙️):
There are no different types of sub-accounts. You can only create isolated NWC connections. The F&F app simplifies this process by skipping the advanced options of the standard NWC connections creation process (which are not isolated by default and thus not a subaccount). The F&F app skips all that is not necessary when creating a NWC connection and automatically creates isolated NWC connections.
Non-Technical Level:
Creating a sub-account for a friend takes about 10 seconds. Your friend can then scan the QR code to use it. However, to receive satoshis, they’ll need to manually create an invoice.
To avoid this inconvenience, the next step would be setting up a lightning address. This allows your friend to receive payments easily without typing invoices, just share the lightning address! This is not another type of account, but an upgrade of the account that was made before, in order to have a lightning address.
About Keysend Payments and Podcasting:
Keysend payments are only accepted by public channels, which only the Alby Hub admin/owner can create. We recommend creating public channels only if keysend payments are required for podcasting activities. For podcasting, you’ll also need to configure a v4v tag, that is why this was placed onto a third separate section, only podcasters needs this extra step. They also need to ensure the Alby Hub providing the sub-account has public channels to make keysend payments work.
Let me know if you have more questions! 🙌
Best,
Jean-Paul ✨
Do you mind to elaborate what you mean with a "fast account" and which other two options you refer to here?
Screenshots or links might also help to better understand the context of your question 🙏
René Aaron
when i go to find a guide on making subaccounts:
https://guides.getalby.com/user-guide/alby-account-and-browser-extension/alby-hub/app-store/subaccounts-friends-and-family
i see this: https://files.catbox.moe/e8ksar.png
and this: https://files.catbox.moe/kr4au1.png
I pondered for a while what type of subaccount I should make, it seemed as if this was an important decision to make. It was clear that I was not going to choose "Fast subaccount" as this seems to have reduced functionality. So then my other two options are called "Subaccount with lightning address" and "Podcaster and musicians subaccount"
This is where I became frustrated. I was eager to begin the tutorial, but could not understand the limitations of a "Subaccount with lightning address" vs a "Podcaster and musicians subaccount"
If I am not mistaken, there is no such thing as a "Podcaster and musicians subaccount." This is simply the part of the tutorial that shows you where the keysend (v4v) stuff is, once you've created a "Subaccount with lightning address"
maikiampietro Thank you so much for bringing this up! 😊 Your feedback has made us reconsider how we explain subaccounts, and it’s helping us improve. We might update our guide in the future, especially as new features are added.
I’ve already replied to your first message, and you’re welcome to join our Discord community anytime. If I’m in a voice channel, we can chat about this! For Hub subscribers, we even offer free calls. 🎙️
Please check my earlier reply and let me know if there’s anything else you need. Thanks again for your thoughtful input it’s greatly appreciated! 🙌
Best regards,
Jean-Paul✨
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